Thursday, January 31, 2013

Earth has lost 98% of its atmosphere...


My book research for COSMOLOGICAL ICE AGES shows that after our sun was born in Orion and drifted out into the cold of space Earth froze up for a billion years known as the Huronian Glaciation. A billion years is a long time for nothing to happen. One mile deep ice covered the single ocean and a five-mile deep sheet of ice covered the single continent. 

Eventually our solar system drifted between the two-solar mass stars Procyon and Sirius. There was no way to get out of the billion years ice age because Earth had a 750 PSI atmosphere that was over 3,000 miles deep. You would never see the sun with such an atmosphere. There are times when you can't see the sun today with only a 14.5 psi atmosphere that is only 60-miles deep.

FYI: Venus is much closer to the sun than Earth and it still has a high pressure atmosphere of 117 pounds per square inch which is more than 100 times what we have on Earth right now.

Eventually our got captured by Sirius. Little Sirius B, the size of Earth but with 1.5 solar mass putting out more than 100 times the UV light of our sun conducive to plant growth. Little Sirius B with 1.5 solar mass grabbed hold of our sun putting us in orbit around Sirius A and we had multiple suns in the sky but you could only see Sirius A and B not the sun because the atmosphere was still at around 700 PSI.

Eventually a hundred million years of photosynthesis took the atmosphere down to around 300 PSI during the Carboniferous 380-million years ago. Photosynthesis removed the carbon CO2 atmosphere down releasing free oxygen with photosynthesis as coal 100 feet thick and limestone in the shallow seas was created 12,500 feet thick in some places. You got to understand that to make one foot of hard coal (anthracite) takes 40 feet of trees and grass compressed down. A hundred foot layer of coal took 4000 feet of plant growth. We are not seeing such plant growth today because Earth has lost 98% of its atmospher! 

Diatoms, with the unique ability to multiply 5 times in 24 hours given 24 hours of light from multiple suns completely filled up ocean basins. Incoming meteors instantly united the hydrogen and oxygen in the water with the calcium carbonate to make hydrocarbons crude oil. Most oil basins are ancient meteor impact zones...check it out.

I could have not written this book twenty years ago because the data wasn't available. I used every available field of science including Antarctic Ice Core graphs of methane, CO2, temperature and snow fall. Campbell and Moore tallied up the red shift of 2149 near by bright stars to determine that our solar system is traveling toward Hercules at 19.5 kilometers per second. I drew a line from Hercules through the middle of a star constellation chart extending beyond the middle and it winds up in Orion. Orion is a birthplace for stars and it is the nearest birthplace so we (our sun) must have been born in Orion. We were in a tight orbit around Sirius for 750-million years. The light from these objects created our carbon resources not the sun. 

Right now we are traveling toward Sirius A and B at 7.5 kilometer per second. Our solar system's mass is 2.0 e 30. Sirius A and B has a mass of 6.8 e 30. Procyon has a mass of about 6 e 30. The galaxy gravity is in that direction transmitted in a Fibonacci spiral through billions of stars. To calculate gravity you have to multiply mass difference times four due to the galaxy gravity behind these objects.  
Our orbit period id 105,000 years which matches Ice Ages.


Eight years ago Scientists measured the lung cavities of dinosaurs to determine that Earth's atmosphere 65-+ million years ago had to be around 30 to 60 PSI to keep the animals alive because their lungs were too small. 

Scientists in Washington State measured the fossil remains of rain to discover the drops were much smaller theorizing that the air pressure had to be double what it is today. 
  
Higher Oxygen & Air Pressure: The Necessities

Both evolutionists and many creationists believe the earth, at one time, had higher oxygen levels then it does today. Many evolutionists, in fact, propose that low levels of oxygen led to the extinction of the dinosaurs (coupled with other factors). The reasons for this belief are abundant, and some of them we will touch upon.

The timetables for which these environmental altering events occurred, however, are vastly different between the evolutionist and creationist. The former places such changes during the periods of the Triassic, Jurassic, etc., millions of years ago. The latter places the changes during one cataclysmic event, with that event having occurred only some thousands of years ago. The two perspectives are polar opposites, and yet, share a bit of common ground.

For one, both see that higher oxygen levels and great air pressure are necessities. Realize that when we use the word both, we are not speaking of both camps entirely. There are obviously differing views.

Why are such conditions necessities? Here are some reasons.


Higher Oxygen: Evidence & Reasons

Big Bugs & Research At ASU[17]

Evolutionary scientists know full-well that dragonflies as large as hawks and cockroaches big enough to take on house cats thrived during the Paleozoic era (245-570 million years ago, according to their timescale). One physiologist, John Harrison, has been particularly fascinated with such creatures. Harrison is a professor of biology at Arizona State University, and wanted to know why insects of long ago grew to be so large. He and his colleagues believed the answer to be in how insects breathe, and they are busy studying how the respiratory physiology of modern insects affects their body size.

Air breathing animals breathe with lungs. Insects, rather than lungs, breathe with a network of tiny tubes called tracheae. Air enters the tubes through a row of holes along an insect’s abdomen, and then diffuses down the blind-ended tracheae. In terms of the subject at hand, it is here where the rubber meets the road, because the distance oxygen can travel down the tracheae is dependant upon its concentration in the air. Theoretically, then, if atmospheric oxygen is doubled, it will make it twice as far. If an insect has a longer trachea, therefore, one should expect that the insect will need higher oxygen to breathe.

The question is, can all this be tested? In an attempt to do just that, Harrison studied and continues to study some of the larger insects of our day in his ASU laboratory; namely grasshoppers and dragonflies. What he has found is revealing. The insects’ activity is affected by the amount of oxygen in the atmosphere, and just as the theory predicts, the effect is more pronounced in the largest specimens. The biggest bugs have the longest trachea, and therefore need the most oxygen.

For the remaining skeptics, there is one last test that should be made ... and has been made. If the theory be true, then smaller insects with shorter trachea should be able to deliver adequate oxygen to the tissues even in a low-oxygen atmosphere, and this difference should be most obvious when the smaller and larger insects are forced to engage in oxygen consuming activity, such as flying or jumping.

Simply put, this is exactly what Harrison has seen in his laboratory, and not with different kinds of insects, but with different sizes of the same kind of insect.

Harrison and graduate student Scott Kirkton tested the aerobic performance of grasshoppers given varying amounts of oxygen, and found that smaller grasshoppers can hop nonstop in atmospheric oxygen levels lower then that of our own (21%). In fact, the smallest grasshoppers didn't even have problems in oxygen as low as 5%.

As for the larger grasshoppers? They were quite the contrast from their smaller brothers and sisters, as they tired out faster and their hopping rates rapidly dropped to zero. When extra doses of oxygen were given, however, they began jumping more, strongly suggesting an oxygen-stimulated boost which increased their performance.

The same was seen with dragonflies. As has been shared, fossil dragonflies the size of hawks have been discovered. A dragonfly of such size calls for a dragonfly with a long trachea, and in experiments where oxygen levels were greatly reduced, the dragonflies, not even half as large as their fossil ancestors, went from effortless flight to desperate exertion. The specimens couldn't even get off the ground at the lowest oxygen levels!

This is because the flight muscle of an insect burns more oxygen than any other animal tissue, and scientists know this well. It is a powerful, beautifully designed machine, depending on oxygen to run akin to a car depending on gas. The fact is this: the amount of oxygen supplied to an insect’s muscles, such as those of a dragonfly, directly depends on the amount of oxygen in the air. Therefore, the results of Harrison's experiments make perfect sense, and shed light on the type of atmosphere insects of such large size, such as dragonflies, grasshoppers, etc., would need in order to survive.

Arguments & Objections

As stated before, many evolutionists believe the earth had higher oxygen levels in the past (millions of years ago), as do many creationists (before the flood, thousands of years ago). Some creationists, however, are reluctant to believe such, citing that the Bible isn't clear on the subject and that other factors could contribute to gigantism in the insect world. True, but the Bible isn't clear on a number of scientific subjects, so it is an empty argument. Also, such creationists who cite the contrary do not provide plausible explanations.

Some espouse that gigantism was a result of purer genes, which consequently mutated after the flood (as a result of bottleneck). This argument, however, holds little weight, as flood-believers know full well that insects were not taken on the ark, and therefore would not have had a bottleneck problem (where a small number of individuals were left to breed. Insects can survive flood scenarios better than animals can).

The second argument is that some insects can increase oxygen delivery by a mechanical pumping action of their bodies, and therefore aren't as dependant on oxygen levels. While this is true of some insects, it doesn't explain all of them. Furthermore, and more importantly, Harrison's experiments strongly refute such an argument. The larger grasshoppers and dragonflies were not able to cope with lower oxygen levels, while the smaller specimens were able to. It is clear, then, that the larger grasshoppers and dragonflies were not able to utilize any type of pumping action to accommodate their altered environment.

The third and final objection is that not all fossil insects are of large proportions. Notice that this argument fails to deal with the ones that are large. Consequently, it is irrelevant.

In short, both evolutionists and creationists who take umbrage against the theory need to provide convincing counter-arguments. The evidence can't be ignored.


Greater Air Pressure: Evidence & Reasons

Quetzalcoatlus & The Problem Of Overheating[18]

Even if we could bring dinosaurs back to life, it wouldn't be enough, says Octave Levenspiel, an emeritus professor of chemical engineering at Abiqua State University. According to him, one thing stands in the way, and that's the earth's present atmosphere, which may be only one-eighth as dense as it was many years ago.

"Today's South American condors - with their 12-foot wingspans and 25-pound weight - are the largest creatures that can support and propel themselves through the air according to basic aerodynamic principles," said Levenspiel. "The pterosaur quetzalcoatlus had a wingspan of more than 45 feet - half that of a Boeing 737 - and weighed more than 150 pounds. Either it couldn't fly - but it did or the atmosphere had to be much denser at the time."

Levenspiel postulates the earth's atmosphere was at least eight times denser "100 million years ago." Much less power is needed to fly at greater atmospheric pressures, so such conditions would have given the largest pterosaurs a much easier time flying.

Not only that, but according to Levenspiel, the giant land-dwelling dinosaurs would overheat today for the same reason. "When creatures become very large, they have more trouble removing heat," he said. "A denser atmosphere removes heat faster. An atmosphere eight times denser would have allowed the giant dinosaurs to survive."

In other words, sticking a large dinosaur in a modern-day theme park wouldn't just be a walk in the park. Your dinosaurs would, sadly again, go extinct.

Arguments & Objections

Some simply think the Quetzalcoatlus could fly in an atmosphere like ours today. Like a hand glider, it would have just needed to pick a suitable spot with enough distance to run and height enough to jump from. Obviously, such a situation would be awkward, and just plain silly. As for large dinosaurs and overheating, it is possible that they possessed some type of internal mechanism for keeping them cool, but evidence of such has not been found.

Greater Air Pressure: Evidence & Reasons

Ancient Amber & Ancient Air[18]

As displayed above, many articles have appeared in recent years discussing the topic of ancient amber and oxygen levels. In short, the evidence seems clear. Earth's atmosphere once contained more oxygen, specifically around 35% (as opposed to today's 21%). Tiny bubbles of ancient air trapped by successive flows of tree resin have been discovered in ancient amber, and analyses of the gases in these bubbles reveal these startling numbers. Lest the skeptic argue insufficient testing, the results were based on more than 300 analyses by USGS scientists. Interestingly, the amber samples were also from different evolutionary periods ... the Cretaceous, Tertiary, etc., and even came from 16 world sites. The oldest sample tested was said to be about 130 million years old.

Arguments & Objections

The only argument given (and a very poor one) is the idea that some amber bubbles don't contain such high levels of oxygen. Notice that this argument is identical to the one in reference to large insects ... that is, "that not all fossil insects are of large proportions." As stated earlier, so we'll state again. This argument fails to deal with the samples that do contain higher oxygen levels. Furthermore, it is easier to make sense of amber bubbles that contain lower oxygen levels, as leakage could have taken place. However, endeavoring to make sense of amber bubbles that contain more oxygen is indeed rather a more difficult task.

Monday, January 28, 2013

75 Senators voted to let 30,000 drones shoot Americans...


The List OF 75 US Senators Who Voted To Let 30,000 Drones Shoot Americans In The Streets

February 13, 2012

Source: Senate.gov
Via:
Vid Rebel
The House and Senate voted for the passage of the FAA bill that funds 30,000 drones to surveil Americans knowing that the majority are to be armed initially with shotgun tasers. Two Americans a week die from tasers so these are lethal weapons. But these drones can easily be equipped with machine guns and rockets. I decided to only report the Senate vote because the bill included strong anti-union sections that forced House Democrats to vote against the overall bill. A quick glance of the Senate No votes revealed one staunch Zionist from a strong union state who probably would have voted for the bill if it were a stand alone measure without the union bashing.

Lamar Alexander (R-TN)
Kelly Ayotte (R-NH)
Max Baucus (D-MT)
Mark Begich (D-AK)
Michael Bennet (D-CO)
Jeff Bingaman (D-NM)
Roy Blunt (R-MO)
John Boozman (R-AR)
Barbara Boxer (D-CA)
Scott Brown (R-MA)
Richard Burr (R-NC)
Maria Cantwell (D-WA)
Tom Carper (D-DE)
Saxby Chambliss (R-GA)
Dan Coats (R-IN)
Tom Coburn (R-OK)
Thad Cochran (R-MS)
Susan Collins (R-ME)
Chris Coons (D-DE)
Bob Corker (R-TN)
John Cornyn (R-TX)
Dick Durbin (D-IL)
Mike Enzi (R-WY)
Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
Lindsey Graham (R-SC)
Charles Grassley (R-IA)
Kay Hagan (D-NC)
Dean Heller (R-NV)
John Hoeven (R-ND)
Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX)
Jim Inhofe (R-OK)
Dan Inouye (D-HI)
Johnny Isakson (R-GA)
Mike Johanns (R-NE)
Tim Johnson (D-SD)
Ron Johnson (R-WI)
John Kerry (D-MA)
Herbert Kohl (D-WI)
Jon Kyl (R-AZ)
Mary Landrieu (D-LA)
Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Carl Levin (D-MI)
Joe Lieberman (ID-CT)
Dick Lugar (R-IN)
Joe Manchin (D-WV)
John McCain (R-AZ)
Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
Robert Menendez (D-NJ)
Jerry Moran (R-KS)
Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)
Patty Murray (D-WA)
Bill Nelson (D-FL)
Ben Nelson (D-NE)
Rob Portman (R-OH)
Mark Pryor (D-AR)
John Reed (D-RI)
Harry Reid (D-NV)
Pat Roberts (R-KS)
Jay Rockefeller (D-WV)
Marco Rubio (R-FL)
Chuck Schumer (D-NY)
Jeff Sessions (R-AL)
Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH)
Richard Shelby (R-AL)
Olympia Snowe (R-ME)
Jon Tester (D-MT)
John Thune (R-SD)
Pat Toomey (R-PA)
Mark Udall (D-CO)
Tom Udall (D-NM)
Mark Warner (D-VA)
Jim Webb (D-VA)
Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI)
Roger Wicker (R-MS)
Ron Wyden (
D-OR)

Wednesday, January 23, 2013

Obama money scams...


All Christians and American patriots should read The New American magazine for Jan. 7, 2013. It describes how Obama is attacking all our freedoms.
If it were more widely known how Obama is laundering counterfeit money (causing the national debt), no one would vote for him except idiots.

Did you know that some think that the green company Solyndra's bankruptcy was an isolated event? Where Obama gave millions of our dollars to a company that went bankrupt two years later. And they still received more stimulus dollars even after their bankruptcy.

Then we need to see the list. First of all it must be explained that solar, and wind energy are play things that will never meet our energy needs, and are thus doomed to failure. Except they and other scams make money and power for Obama and his Illuminati.
The swindler's list:

Abound Solar, A123 Systems, Tesla Motors, First Solar, Bright Source, Amonix, and New American says the list goes on. Billions of your dollars squandered on bunko scams that made money for Obama and the Illuminati billionaires. No wonder the debt has gone up another second Trillion dollars in four years! And this is not Obama's only method of swindling the American people. 

Here is how the Green scheme works. (I have often stated that Communism is no longer Red, it is Green which means go!) First these companies are invested in by billionaires (i.e. the Illuminati). Then they send money to Obama or other Democrats for their elections. Then Obama returns the favor by having the Federal Reserve prints counterfeit dollars, which add to your debt to be paid back by taxes. Then these companies send back thousands of the dollars they received for Obama's and other politicians willing to give them more "stimulus" dollars, elections. I would call this money laundering.

NO MONEY FOR PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY


DEMOCRATS and Republicans
('different' ONLY in name)



We read all the jokes and forward the good ones
but I just wonder who will pass this one on.



How about you sending it on, and back to me,
if you have enough 'chutzpah' to do so.

I do

And I wonder just how many I will get back?
Someone please tell me what the HELL's wrong with

All the people that run this country!!!!!!

Both Democrats and Republicans
Say,
"We're broke"
And can't help our own

Seniors,

Veterans,

Orphans,

Homeless,

Etc.,?????

But, over the last several years THEY
have provided
direct cash aid to....

Hamas - $351 M,

Libya $1.45
B,

Egypt - $397 M,

Mexico - $622 M,

Russia - $380 M,

Haiti - $1.4
B,

Jordan - $463 M,

Kenya - $816 M,

Sudan - $870 M,

Nigeria - $456 M,

Uganda - $451 M,

Congo - $359 M,

Ethiopia - $981 M,

Pakistan - $2
B,

South Africa - $566 M,

Senegal - $698 M,

Mozambique - $404 M,

Zambia - $331 M,

Kazakhstan - $304 M,

Iraq - $1.08
B,

Tanzania - $554 M,

...with literally Billions of Dollars
and they
still hate us!!!!

But on the other hand,

Our retired seniors,

Living on a 'fixed income,'
Receive NO aid!
Nor do they get any breaks, while our government
And religious organizations will pour
Hundreds of Billions Of $$$$$$'s
and Tons of Food to Foreign Countries!

Someone needs to explain to them that
Charity begins AT HOME!!!

And another atrocity....
We have Hundreds of adoptable
American Children who are shoved aside


To make room for

The adoption of
Foreign orphans.

AMERICA: A country where we have
Countless Homeless without shelter,
Children going to bed hungry,
Elderly going without needed medication
and the Mentally ill without treatment -- etc.

YET..........
They will have a 'Benefit' Show
For the people of Haiti, on 12 TV Stations;
Ships and planes lining up with food, water, tents
clothes, bedding, doctors and medical supplies.

Now Just Imagine if

Our own *
GOVERNMENT*

Gave 'US' the same support they give to foreign countries.

Sad, isn't it?


99% of people won't have the 'chutzpah' to forward this.

WELL, I'm one of the 1% who Just Did. 

Tuesday, January 22, 2013

Electric car conversions--why not an electric plane?



This is the future!

I want to build an experimental electric aircraft and will need additional funding or grants to cover the cost. Anyone interested should contact me hankkroll@gmail.com  The technology exists right now. Once I get it flying I will put a video on you tube to advertise your products and my company, New Wave Technology to do additional aircraft and car conversions. 
We have a non-profit 501-C-3 corporation WORKFORCE TRAINING SCHOOL that can accept TAX DEDUCTIBLE donations.


Sikorsky has a full sized battery powered helicopter prototype on you tube. Check it out! It uses a US Hybrid electric motor and two Lithium battery packs weighing 700 pounds each. Not to practical at the present time. The battery technology is on the verge of making electric flying machines a reality. 

There are hundreds of electric car conversions on the road. Read  
Electrical Engineer: www.JohnSavesEnergy.com articles to learn more about electric car conversions.

Arguments for Electric Cars:
  • Worst case, pollution is shifted from the tailpipe to the smokestack where emissions can be more strictly monitored and controlled.
  • Worst case, pollution is far away from populated areas. Pollution happens at night when the cars are charging and most people are inside and not breathing outside air.
  • As the electric grid becomes cleaner so do all the cars. This is an amazing quality. In Utah, 50% of all air pollution comes from automobiles. Imagine being able to reduce the emissions of hundreds of thousands of cars just by improving the point source where energy is generated? Air quality would improve overnight.
  • Electric cars don’t need to warm up before driving somewhere. 
  • With electric cars, there is no risk of carbon monoxide poisoning.
  • Electric motors don't care if it's summer, winter, sea level or high altitude. Unlike gasoline which must be adjusted according to the seasons and the local city's altitude, electricity could care less if it is used on the bottom of the ocean or a mountain on the moon.
  • Pollution from an EV during rush-hour is non-existent. Unlike an ICE, EVs consume virtually no energy when sitting idle at a traffic light.
  • Maintenance of an EV is almost non-existent. Water batteries every couple of months (lead acid only), add washer fluid and check your tire pressure. I do have to caution that you may have to get some dental work done because you will smile a lot more.
  • EV’s with regenerative brakes have virtually no brake wear/tear. EV’s are super quiet and noise pollution is much lower with EVs.
  • When working on an EV, you don’t become a greasy mess like in an ICE. No oil leaks, no mess.
  • EV’s are super fun to drive. There is no comparison. Once you go EV, you never go back.
  • The average commute is less than 20-miles, well within the range of electric cars.
  • It takes 6 - 7.5 kWh of electricity to refine 1 gallon of gasoline. That's the same amount of energy a Nissan Leaf EV takes to drive 20 miles. If we stopped refining gasoline and all drove electric cars instead, our nation would still use the same amount of electricity as before only without needing any oil and gas. 


The battery packs that I think will work each weigh 135 pounds for a total weight of 270 pounds. The 160 AH at 78 volts batteries can sustain a maximum discharge of 60 amps and 40 amps continuous. Both battery packs hooked together can deliver a maximum of 120 amps for one minute delivering 80 HP.  I believe the plane will fly strait and level on 30 HP. Within seven years I predict battery power will more than double. Now is the time to get in on this!

Since there will be no engine, gasoline or fuel tanks to worry about the battery packs, electric motor and controller will weigh slightly more than the battery pack and the electric motor. When sitting at the airport solar cells could be used to charge the batteries.

I recently sold my J-3 Cub so I have some money to put into the project. It has to fly at least two hours carrying two people. The Challenger II kit aircraft empty weight is 350 pounds and cost about $20,000.00. Two Lithium ion battery packs with a controller cost about $20,000.00.  

I have been researching the new lithium ion batteries and electric car conversions for some time. There is a tremendous amount .of information on the web right now regarding electric car conversions.


PERFORMANCE:

CHALLENGER I
CHALLENGER II
CHALLENGER I SPL
CHALLENGER II SPL.

VNE
100 MPH
100 MPH
120 MPH
120 MPH

TOP LEVEL SPEED
63 TO 90 MPH
75 TO 90 MPH
95 TO 105 MPH
100 MPH

CRUISE SPEED
55 TO 75 MPH
65 TO 70 MPH
75 TO 90 MPH
85 MPH

STALL SPEED
25 MPH
22 MPH SOLO
30 MPH DUAL
28 MPH
32 MPH SOLO
37 MPH DUAL

CLIMB RATE
700 TO 1200 FPM
1200 FPM SOLO
700 FPM DUAL
1000 TO 1400 FPM
1200 FPM SOLO
700 FPM DUAL

TAKE OFF ROLL
100 TO 200 FT
100 FT. SOLO
200 FT. DUAL
100 TO 150 FT
125 FT. SOLO
250 FT. DUAL

GLIDE RATIO
10 TO 1
11 TO 1 SOLO
9 TO 1 DUAL
9 TO 1
10 TO 1 SOLO
8 TO 1 DUAL

SERVICE CEILING
12,500 TO
14,500 FEET
14,000 FT. SOLO
12,500 FT. DUAL
14,000 FEET
14,000 FT. SOLO
12,500 FT. DUAL

FUEL USED CRUSE
1.5 TO 2.2 GPH
2.3 TO 4 GPH
2.3 TO 3 GPH
3.5 GPH


The Challenger II kit cost
The following e-mail illustrates the difficulties of communicating design specifications to someone who has never flown a plane.
D&D Motor Systems, Inc.
215 Park Avenue
Syracuse, NY 13204
315-701-0635
315-701-0859 FAX
www.ddmotorsystems.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:46 PM
Subject: Drive Motor Quote Request


Referal Page: EV_PageCompany Information


Company: New Wave Technologies Inc.
Contact: Henry Kroll - CEO
Address:
513 Peninsula Avenue

Kenai , AK , 99611

Phone:9072831456 Fax:
Email:
hankkroll@gmail.com
Vehicle Information


Vehicle Type: Challenger kit aircraft
No Load Weight: 350 lbs.
Full Load Weight: 1050 lbs.
Drive Wheel Diameter: 72 in.
Rolling Tire Radius: 24 in.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Type: Direct drive 3-blade carbon fiber prop.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Efficiancy: 75%
Maximum No Load Speed: 75 MPH
Maximum Full Load Speed: 100 MPH

Controller Type: Undecided
Motor Requirements


H.P. Required: 50 hp maximum
RPM Required: 3000
Volts: 72 volts
Maximum Current: 70 Amps
Duty Cycle: 1 Hour
Quantity Per Year: 10 or less
Comments: The weight and efficiency of potassium ion lithium batteries are approaching the point where it is possible to fly two hours. 50HP on takeoff is enough power for the Challenger to get off the ground with 30 HP required for level flight.


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A propellar hub will be fixed on the motor where a three-blade ground adjustable carbon fiber prop is mounted. The Challenger is a pusher configuration so there is no danger of the hub coming off. As I said before we need 50 hp for takeoff and about 30 hp for level flight. Your smaller motor is what I need the price. Just give me a price.
One option is two Lithium Ion 110/ah/48 volt battery packs each weighing 135 pounds put out a maximum 30 amps each. Both will be used for takeoff for a total of 60 amps for one minute (96 volts with bot battery packs) a continuous output of 20 amps each (total 40 amps with both). I don't know if it will fly on 20 amps.

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 4:01 AM, D&D Motors Systems - Sales <sales@ddmotorsystems.com> wrote:
Greetings Henry

We may be able to help you out. Please let me know a few more things. We must obtain a schematic or picture of your Challenger kit aircraft design?(Without that we cannot progress.) What differential or mechanical design will you require from our motor?(Straight output keyed shaft? Length? Splined shaft?) What are the total AMP hours for your exact lithium batteries? Let me know. We look forward to working with you on all your electric motor and controller needs.

Thanks,
Mike Dieroff
D&D Motor Systems, Inc.
215 Park Avenue
Syracuse, NY 13204
315-701-0635
315-701-0859 FAX
www.ddmotorsystems.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:46 PM
Subject: Drive Motor Quote Request
Referal Page: EV_PageCompany Information


Company: New Wave Technologies Inc.
Contact: Henry Kroll - CEO
Address:
513 Peninsula Avenue

Kenai , AK , 99611

Phone:9072831456 Fax:
Email:
hankkroll@gmail.com
Vehicle Information


Vehicle Type: Challenger kit aircraft
No Load Weight: 350 lbs.
Full Load Weight: 1050 lbs.
Drive Wheel Diameter: 72 in.
Rolling Tire Radius: 24 in.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Type: Direct drive 3-blade carbon fiber prop.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Gear Ratio: 0
Differential/Transmission & Axle Efficiancy: 75%
Maximum No Load Speed: 60 MPH
Maximum Full Load Speed: 70 MPH
Minimum Vehicle Speed Up 5 % Grade: 5 MPH
Controller Type: Undecided
Motor Requirements


H.P. Required: 50 hp maximum
RPM Required: 3000
Volts: 72 volts
Maximum Current: 70 Amps
Duty Cycle: 1 Hour
Quantity Per Year: 10 or less
Comments: The weight and efficiency of potassium ion lithium batteries are approaching the point where it is possible to fly two hours. 50HP on takeoff is enough power for the Challenger to get off the ground with 30 HP required for level flight.
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We must obtain a schematic or picture of your Challenger kit aircraft design?
Mike
From: Henry Kroll
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: Drive Motor Quote Request
A propellar hub will be fixed on the motor where a three-blade ground adjustable carbon fiber prop is mounted. The Challenger is a pusher configuration so there is no danger of the hub coming off. As I said before we need 50 hp for takeoff and about 30 hp for level flight. Your smaller motor is what I need the price. Just give me a price.
One option is two Lithium Ion 110/ah/48 volt battery packs each weighing 135 pounds put out a maximum 30 amps each. Both will be used for takeoff for a total of 60 amps for one minute (96 volts with bot battery packs) a continuous output of 20 amps each (total 40 amps with both). I don't know if it will fly on 20 amps.

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 4:01 AM, D&D Motors Systems - Sales <sales@ddmotorsystems.com> wrote:
Greetings Henry

We may be able to help you out. Please let me know a few more things. We must obtain a schematic or picture of your Challenger kit aircraft design?(Without that we cannot progress.) What differential or mechanical design will you require from our motor?(Straight output keyed shaft? Length? Splined shaft?) What are the total AMP hours for your exact lithium batteries? Let me know. We look forward to working with you on all your electric motor and controller needs.

Thanks,
Mike Dieroff





 
D&D Motor Systems, Inc.
215 Park Avenue
Syracuse, NY 13204
315-701-0635
315-701-0859 FAX
www.ddmotorsystems.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:46 PM
Subject: Drive Motor Quote Request
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Company: New Wave Technologies Inc.
Contact: Henry Kroll - CEO
Address:
513 Peninsula Avenue

Kenai , AK , 99611

Phone: 
9072831456 Fax:
Email: 
hankkroll@gmail.com
Vehicle Information


Vehicle Type: Challenger kit aircraft
No Load Weight: 350 lbs.
Full Load Weight: 1050 lbs.
Drive Wheel Diameter: 72 in.
Rolling Tire Radius: 24 in.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Type: Direct drive 3-blade carbon fiber prop.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Gear Ratio: 0
Differential/Transmission & Axle Efficiancy: 75%
Maximum No Load Speed: 60 MPH
Maximum Full Load Speed: 70 MPH
Minimum Vehicle Speed Up 5 % Grade: 5 MPH
Controller Type: Undecided
Motor Requirements


H.P. Required: 50 hp maximum
RPM Required: 3000
Volts: 72 volts
Maximum Current: 70 Amps
Duty Cycle: 1 Hour
Quantity Per Year: 10 or less
Comments: The weight and efficiency of potassium ion lithium batteries are approaching the point where it is possible to fly two hours. 50HP on takeoff is enough power for the Challenger to get off the ground with 30 HP required for level flight.
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I will adapt the keyed shaft to the prop hub. I have a metal lathe. Just send...
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Henry Kroll  
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I will adapt the keyed shaft to the prop hub. I have a metal lathe. Just send me a price for the 50 or 70 hp motor at 140 volts and the controller.
I can buy the blank prop hubs from any number of aircraft suppliers. I will bor it out myself so its not a problem. The keyed shaft would be best with a bolt tapped into the end. Being that the Challenger aircraft is a pusher configuration the prop will not come off.

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:32 AM, D&D Motors Systems - Sales <sales@ddmotorsystems.com> wrote:
We must obtain a schematic or picture of your Challenger kit aircraft design?(Without that we cannot progress.) What differential or mechanical design will you require from our motor?(Straight output keyed shaft? Length? Splined shaft?)
Mike
From: Henry Kroll
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: Drive Motor Quote Request
A propellar hub will be fixed on the motor where a three-blade ground adjustable carbon fiber prop is mounted. The Challenger is a pusher configuration so there is no danger of the hub coming off. As I said before we need 50 hp for takeoff and about 30 hp for level flight. Your smaller motor is what I need the price. Just give me a price.
One option is two Lithium Ion 110/ah/48 volt battery packs each weighing 135 pounds put out a maximum 30 amps each. Both will be used for takeoff for a total of 60 amps for one minute (96 volts with bot battery packs) a continuous output of 20 amps each (total 40 amps with both). I don't know if it will fly on 20 amps.

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 4:01 AM, D&D Motors Systems - Sales <sales@ddmotorsystems.com> wrote:
Greetings Henry

We may be able to help you out. Please let me know a few more things. We must obtain a schematic or picture of your Challenger kit aircraft design?(Without that we cannot progress.) What differential or mechanical design will you require from our motor?(Straight output keyed shaft? Length? Splined shaft?) What are the total AMP hours for your exact lithium batteries? Let me know. We look forward to working with you on all your electric motor and controller needs.

Thanks,
Mike Dieroff
D&D Motor Systems, Inc.
215 Park Avenue
Syracuse, NY 13204
315-701-0635
315-701-0859 FAX
www.ddmotorsystems.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:46 PM
Subject: Drive Motor Quote Request
Referal Page: EV_PageCompany Information


Company: New Wave Technologies Inc.
Contact: Henry Kroll - CEO
Address:
513 Peninsula Avenue

Kenai , AK , 99611

Phone: 
9072831456 Fax:
Email: 
hankkroll@gmail.com
Vehicle Information


Vehicle Type: Challenger kit aircraft
No Load Weight: 350 lbs.
Full Load Weight: 1050 lbs.
Drive Wheel Diameter: 72 in.
Rolling Tire Radius: 24 in.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Type: Direct drive 3-blade carbon fiber prop.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Gear Ratio: 0
Differential/Transmission & Axle Efficiancy: 75%
Maximum No Load Speed: 60 MPH
Maximum Full Load Speed: 70 MPH
Minimum Vehicle Speed Up 5 % Grade: 5 MPH
Controller Type: Undecided
Motor Requirements


H.P. Required: 50 hp maximum
RPM Required: 3000
Volts: 72 volts
Maximum Current: 70 Amps
Duty Cycle: 1 Hour
Quantity Per Year: 10 or less
Comments: The weight and efficiency of potassium ion lithium batteries are approaching the point where it is possible to fly two hours. 50HP on takeoff is enough power for the Challenger to get off the ground with 30 HP required for level flight.
Name of Picture File:


This would be a fun project pointing the way for future technology development.