This is the future!
I want to build an experimental electric aircraft and will need additional funding or grants to cover the cost. Anyone interested should contact me hankkroll@gmail.com The technology exists right now. Once I get it flying I will put a video on you tube to advertise your products and my company, New Wave Technology to do additional aircraft and car conversions.
We have a non-profit 501-C-3 corporation WORKFORCE TRAINING SCHOOL that can accept TAX DEDUCTIBLE donations.
We have a non-profit 501-C-3 corporation WORKFORCE TRAINING SCHOOL that can accept TAX DEDUCTIBLE donations.
Sikorsky has a full sized battery powered helicopter prototype on you tube. Check it out! It uses a US Hybrid electric motor and two Lithium battery packs weighing 700 pounds each. Not to practical at the present time. The battery technology is on the verge of making electric flying machines a reality.
There are hundreds of electric car conversions on the road. Read
Electrical Engineer: www.JohnSavesEnergy.com articles to learn more about electric car conversions.
Arguments for Electric Cars:
- Worst case, pollution is shifted from the tailpipe to the smokestack where emissions can be more strictly monitored and controlled.
- Worst case, pollution is far away from populated areas. Pollution happens at night when the cars are charging and most people are inside and not breathing outside air.
- As the electric grid becomes cleaner so do all the cars. This is an amazing quality. In Utah, 50% of all air pollution comes from automobiles. Imagine being able to reduce the emissions of hundreds of thousands of cars just by improving the point source where energy is generated? Air quality would improve overnight.
- Electric cars don’t need to warm up before driving somewhere.
- With electric cars, there is no risk of carbon monoxide poisoning.
- Electric motors don't care if it's summer, winter, sea level or high altitude. Unlike gasoline which must be adjusted according to the seasons and the local city's altitude, electricity could care less if it is used on the bottom of the ocean or a mountain on the moon.
- Pollution from an EV during rush-hour is non-existent. Unlike an ICE, EVs consume virtually no energy when sitting idle at a traffic light.
- Maintenance of an EV is almost non-existent. Water batteries every couple of months (lead acid only), add washer fluid and check your tire pressure. I do have to caution that you may have to get some dental work done because you will smile a lot more.
- EV’s with regenerative brakes have virtually no brake wear/tear. EV’s are super quiet and noise pollution is much lower with EVs.
- When working on an EV, you don’t become a greasy mess like in an ICE. No oil leaks, no mess.
- EV’s are super fun to drive. There is no comparison. Once you go EV, you never go back.
- The average commute is less than 20-miles, well within the range of electric cars.
- It takes 6 - 7.5 kWh of electricity to refine 1 gallon of gasoline. That's the same amount of energy a Nissan Leaf EV takes to drive 20 miles. If we stopped refining gasoline and all drove electric cars instead, our nation would still use the same amount of electricity as before only without needing any oil and gas.
The battery packs that I think will work each weigh 135 pounds for a total weight of 270 pounds. The 160 AH at 78 volts batteries can sustain a maximum discharge of 60 amps and 40 amps continuous. Both battery packs hooked together can deliver a maximum of 120 amps for one minute delivering 80 HP. I believe the plane will fly strait and level on 30 HP. Within seven years I predict battery power will more than double. Now is the time to get in on this!
Since there will be no engine, gasoline or fuel tanks to worry about the battery packs, electric motor and controller will weigh slightly more than the battery pack and the electric motor. When sitting at the airport solar cells could be used to charge the batteries.
I recently sold my J-3 Cub so I have some money to put into the project. It has to fly at least two hours carrying two people. The Challenger II kit aircraft empty weight is 350 pounds and cost about $20,000.00. Two Lithium ion battery packs with a controller cost about $20,000.00.
I have been researching the new lithium ion batteries and electric car conversions for some time. There is a tremendous amount .of information on the web right now regarding electric car conversions.
PERFORMANCE:
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CHALLENGER II
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CHALLENGER I SPL
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VNE |
100 MPH
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100 MPH
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120 MPH
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120 MPH
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TOP LEVEL SPEED |
63 TO 90 MPH
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75 TO 90 MPH
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95 TO 105 MPH
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100 MPH
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CRUISE SPEED |
55 TO 75 MPH
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65 TO 70 MPH
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75 TO 90 MPH
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85 MPH
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STALL SPEED |
25 MPH
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22 MPH SOLO
30 MPH DUAL |
28 MPH
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32 MPH SOLO
37 MPH DUAL |
CLIMB RATE |
700 TO 1200 FPM
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1200 FPM SOLO
700 FPM DUAL |
1000 TO 1400 FPM
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1200 FPM SOLO
700 FPM DUAL |
TAKE OFF ROLL |
100 TO 200 FT
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100 FT. SOLO
200 FT. DUAL |
100 TO 150 FT
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125 FT. SOLO
250 FT. DUAL |
GLIDE RATIO |
10 TO 1
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11 TO 1 SOLO
9 TO 1 DUAL |
9 TO 1
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10 TO 1 SOLO
8 TO 1 DUAL |
SERVICE CEILING |
12,500 TO
14,500 FEET |
14,000 FT. SOLO
12,500 FT. DUAL |
14,000 FEET
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14,000 FT. SOLO
12,500 FT. DUAL |
FUEL USED CRUSE |
1.5 TO 2.2 GPH
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2.3 TO 4 GPH
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2.3 TO 3 GPH
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3.5 GPH
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The Challenger II kit cost
The following e-mail illustrates the difficulties of communicating design specifications to someone who has never flown a plane.
D&D Motor Systems, Inc.
215 Park Avenue
Syracuse, NY 13204315-701-0635
315-701-0859 FAX
www.ddmotorsystems.com
215 Park Avenue
Syracuse, NY 13204315-701-0635
315-701-0859 FAX
www.ddmotorsystems.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:46 PM
Subject: Drive Motor Quote Request
Referal Page: EV_PageCompany Information
Company: New Wave Technologies Inc.
Contact: Henry Kroll - CEO
Contact: Henry Kroll - CEO
Address:
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Vehicle Type: Challenger kit aircraft
No Load Weight: 350 lbs.
Full Load Weight: 1050 lbs.
Drive Wheel Diameter: 72 in.
Rolling Tire Radius: 24 in.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Type: Direct drive 3-blade carbon fiber prop.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Efficiancy: 75%
Maximum No Load Speed: 75 MPH
Maximum Full Load Speed: 100 MPH
Controller Type: Undecided
Motor Requirements
No Load Weight: 350 lbs.
Full Load Weight: 1050 lbs.
Drive Wheel Diameter: 72 in.
Rolling Tire Radius: 24 in.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Type: Direct drive 3-blade carbon fiber prop.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Efficiancy: 75%
Maximum No Load Speed: 75 MPH
Maximum Full Load Speed: 100 MPH
Controller Type: Undecided
Motor Requirements
H.P. Required: 50 hp maximum
RPM Required: 3000
Volts: 72 volts
Maximum Current: 70 Amps
Duty Cycle: 1 Hour
Quantity Per Year: 10 or less
Comments: The weight and efficiency of potassium ion lithium batteries are approaching the point where it is possible to fly two hours. 50HP on takeoff is enough power for the Challenger to get off the ground with 30 HP required for level flight.
RPM Required: 3000
Volts: 72 volts
Maximum Current: 70 Amps
Duty Cycle: 1 Hour
Quantity Per Year: 10 or less
Comments: The weight and efficiency of potassium ion lithium batteries are approaching the point where it is possible to fly two hours. 50HP on takeoff is enough power for the Challenger to get off the ground with 30 HP required for level flight.
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A propellar hub will be fixed on the motor where a three-blade ground adjustable carbon fiber prop is mounted. The Challenger is a pusher configuration so there is no danger of the hub coming off. As I said before we need 50 hp for takeoff and about 30 hp for level flight. Your smaller motor is what I need the price. Just give me a price.
One option is two Lithium Ion 110/ah/48 volt battery packs each weighing 135 pounds put out a maximum 30 amps each. Both will be used for takeoff for a total of 60 amps for one minute (96 volts with bot battery packs) a continuous output of 20 amps each (total 40 amps with both). I don't know if it will fly on 20 amps.
Greetings Henry,
We may be able to help you out. Please let me know a few more things. We must obtain a schematic or picture of your Challenger kit aircraft design?(Without that we cannot progress.) What differential or mechanical design will you require from our motor?(Straight output keyed shaft? Length? Splined shaft?) What are the total AMP hours for your exact lithium batteries? Let me know. We look forward to working with you on all your electric motor and controller needs.
We may be able to help you out. Please let me know a few more things. We must obtain a schematic or picture of your Challenger kit aircraft design?(Without that we cannot progress.) What differential or mechanical design will you require from our motor?(Straight output keyed shaft? Length? Splined shaft?) What are the total AMP hours for your exact lithium batteries? Let me know. We look forward to working with you on all your electric motor and controller needs.
Thanks,
Mike Dieroff
D&D Motor Systems, Inc.
215 Park Avenue
Syracuse, NY 13204315-701-0635
315-701-0859 FAX
www.ddmotorsystems.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:46 PM
Subject: Drive Motor Quote Request
Referal Page: EV_PageCompany Information
Company: New Wave Technologies Inc.
Contact: Henry Kroll - CEO
Contact: Henry Kroll - CEO
Address:
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513 Peninsula Avenue
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Kenai , AK , 99611
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Vehicle Type: Challenger kit aircraft
No Load Weight: 350 lbs.
Full Load Weight: 1050 lbs.
Drive Wheel Diameter: 72 in.
Rolling Tire Radius: 24 in.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Type: Direct drive 3-blade carbon fiber prop.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Gear Ratio: 0
Differential/Transmission & Axle Efficiancy: 75%
Maximum No Load Speed: 60 MPH
Maximum Full Load Speed: 70 MPH
Minimum Vehicle Speed Up 5 % Grade: 5 MPH
Controller Type: Undecided
Motor Requirements
No Load Weight: 350 lbs.
Full Load Weight: 1050 lbs.
Drive Wheel Diameter: 72 in.
Rolling Tire Radius: 24 in.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Type: Direct drive 3-blade carbon fiber prop.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Gear Ratio: 0
Differential/Transmission & Axle Efficiancy: 75%
Maximum No Load Speed: 60 MPH
Maximum Full Load Speed: 70 MPH
Minimum Vehicle Speed Up 5 % Grade: 5 MPH
Controller Type: Undecided
Motor Requirements
H.P. Required: 50 hp maximum
RPM Required: 3000
Volts: 72 volts
Maximum Current: 70 Amps
Duty Cycle: 1 Hour
Quantity Per Year: 10 or less
Comments: The weight and efficiency of potassium ion lithium batteries are approaching the point where it is possible to fly two hours. 50HP on takeoff is enough power for the Challenger to get off the ground with 30 HP required for level flight.
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RPM Required: 3000
Volts: 72 volts
Maximum Current: 70 Amps
Duty Cycle: 1 Hour
Quantity Per Year: 10 or less
Comments: The weight and efficiency of potassium ion lithium batteries are approaching the point where it is possible to fly two hours. 50HP on takeoff is enough power for the Challenger to get off the ground with 30 HP required for level flight.
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We must obtain a schematic or picture of your Challenger kit aircraft design?
Mike
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: Drive Motor Quote Request
A propellar hub will be fixed on the motor where a three-blade ground adjustable carbon fiber prop is mounted. The Challenger is a pusher configuration so there is no danger of the hub coming off. As I said before we need 50 hp for takeoff and about 30 hp for level flight. Your smaller motor is what I need the price. Just give me a price.
One option is two Lithium Ion 110/ah/48 volt battery packs each weighing 135 pounds put out a maximum 30 amps each. Both will be used for takeoff for a total of 60 amps for one minute (96 volts with bot battery packs) a continuous output of 20 amps each (total 40 amps with both). I don't know if it will fly on 20 amps.
Greetings Henry,
We may be able to help you out. Please let me know a few more things. We must obtain a schematic or picture of your Challenger kit aircraft design?(Without that we cannot progress.) What differential or mechanical design will you require from our motor?(Straight output keyed shaft? Length? Splined shaft?) What are the total AMP hours for your exact lithium batteries? Let me know. We look forward to working with you on all your electric motor and controller needs.
We may be able to help you out. Please let me know a few more things. We must obtain a schematic or picture of your Challenger kit aircraft design?(Without that we cannot progress.) What differential or mechanical design will you require from our motor?(Straight output keyed shaft? Length? Splined shaft?) What are the total AMP hours for your exact lithium batteries? Let me know. We look forward to working with you on all your electric motor and controller needs.
Thanks,
Mike Dieroff
D&D Motor Systems, Inc.
215 Park Avenue
Syracuse, NY 13204315-701-0635
315-701-0859 FAX
www.ddmotorsystems.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:46 PM
Subject: Drive Motor Quote Request
Referal Page: EV_PageCompany Information
Company: New Wave Technologies Inc.
Contact: Henry Kroll - CEO
Contact: Henry Kroll - CEO
Address:
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513 Peninsula Avenue
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Kenai , AK , 99611
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Vehicle Type: Challenger kit aircraft
No Load Weight: 350 lbs.
Full Load Weight: 1050 lbs.
Drive Wheel Diameter: 72 in.
Rolling Tire Radius: 24 in.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Type: Direct drive 3-blade carbon fiber prop.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Gear Ratio: 0
Differential/Transmission & Axle Efficiancy: 75%
Maximum No Load Speed: 60 MPH
Maximum Full Load Speed: 70 MPH
Minimum Vehicle Speed Up 5 % Grade: 5 MPH
Controller Type: Undecided
Motor Requirements
No Load Weight: 350 lbs.
Full Load Weight: 1050 lbs.
Drive Wheel Diameter: 72 in.
Rolling Tire Radius: 24 in.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Type: Direct drive 3-blade carbon fiber prop.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Gear Ratio: 0
Differential/Transmission & Axle Efficiancy: 75%
Maximum No Load Speed: 60 MPH
Maximum Full Load Speed: 70 MPH
Minimum Vehicle Speed Up 5 % Grade: 5 MPH
Controller Type: Undecided
Motor Requirements
H.P. Required: 50 hp maximum
RPM Required: 3000
Volts: 72 volts
Maximum Current: 70 Amps
Duty Cycle: 1 Hour
Quantity Per Year: 10 or less
Comments: The weight and efficiency of potassium ion lithium batteries are approaching the point where it is possible to fly two hours. 50HP on takeoff is enough power for the Challenger to get off the ground with 30 HP required for level flight.
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RPM Required: 3000
Volts: 72 volts
Maximum Current: 70 Amps
Duty Cycle: 1 Hour
Quantity Per Year: 10 or less
Comments: The weight and efficiency of potassium ion lithium batteries are approaching the point where it is possible to fly two hours. 50HP on takeoff is enough power for the Challenger to get off the ground with 30 HP required for level flight.
Name of Picture File:
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I will adapt the keyed shaft to the prop hub. I have a metal lathe. Just send me a price for the 50 or 70 hp motor at 140 volts and the controller.
I can buy the blank prop hubs from any number of aircraft suppliers. I will bor it out myself so its not a problem. The keyed shaft would be best with a bolt tapped into the end. Being that the Challenger aircraft is a pusher configuration the prop will not come off.
We must obtain a schematic or picture of your Challenger kit aircraft design?(Without that we cannot progress.) What differential or mechanical design will you require from our motor?(Straight output keyed shaft? Length? Splined shaft?)
Mike
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: Drive Motor Quote Request
A propellar hub will be fixed on the motor where a three-blade ground adjustable carbon fiber prop is mounted. The Challenger is a pusher configuration so there is no danger of the hub coming off. As I said before we need 50 hp for takeoff and about 30 hp for level flight. Your smaller motor is what I need the price. Just give me a price.
One option is two Lithium Ion 110/ah/48 volt battery packs each weighing 135 pounds put out a maximum 30 amps each. Both will be used for takeoff for a total of 60 amps for one minute (96 volts with bot battery packs) a continuous output of 20 amps each (total 40 amps with both). I don't know if it will fly on 20 amps.
Greetings Henry,
We may be able to help you out. Please let me know a few more things. We must obtain a schematic or picture of your Challenger kit aircraft design?(Without that we cannot progress.) What differential or mechanical design will you require from our motor?(Straight output keyed shaft? Length? Splined shaft?) What are the total AMP hours for your exact lithium batteries? Let me know. We look forward to working with you on all your electric motor and controller needs.
We may be able to help you out. Please let me know a few more things. We must obtain a schematic or picture of your Challenger kit aircraft design?(Without that we cannot progress.) What differential or mechanical design will you require from our motor?(Straight output keyed shaft? Length? Splined shaft?) What are the total AMP hours for your exact lithium batteries? Let me know. We look forward to working with you on all your electric motor and controller needs.
Thanks,
Mike Dieroff
D&D Motor Systems, Inc.
215 Park Avenue
Syracuse, NY 13204315-701-0635
315-701-0859 FAX
www.ddmotorsystems.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:46 PM
Subject: Drive Motor Quote Request
Referal Page: EV_PageCompany Information
Company: New Wave Technologies Inc.
Contact: Henry Kroll - CEO
Contact: Henry Kroll - CEO
Address:
|
513 Peninsula Avenue
|
Kenai , AK , 99611
|
Vehicle Type: Challenger kit aircraft
No Load Weight: 350 lbs.
Full Load Weight: 1050 lbs.
Drive Wheel Diameter: 72 in.
Rolling Tire Radius: 24 in.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Type: Direct drive 3-blade carbon fiber prop.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Gear Ratio: 0
Differential/Transmission & Axle Efficiancy: 75%
Maximum No Load Speed: 60 MPH
Maximum Full Load Speed: 70 MPH
Minimum Vehicle Speed Up 5 % Grade: 5 MPH
Controller Type: Undecided
Motor Requirements
No Load Weight: 350 lbs.
Full Load Weight: 1050 lbs.
Drive Wheel Diameter: 72 in.
Rolling Tire Radius: 24 in.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Type: Direct drive 3-blade carbon fiber prop.
Differential/Transmission & Axle Gear Ratio: 0
Differential/Transmission & Axle Efficiancy: 75%
Maximum No Load Speed: 60 MPH
Maximum Full Load Speed: 70 MPH
Minimum Vehicle Speed Up 5 % Grade: 5 MPH
Controller Type: Undecided
Motor Requirements
H.P. Required: 50 hp maximum
RPM Required: 3000
Volts: 72 volts
Maximum Current: 70 Amps
Duty Cycle: 1 Hour
Quantity Per Year: 10 or less
Comments: The weight and efficiency of potassium ion lithium batteries are approaching the point where it is possible to fly two hours. 50HP on takeoff is enough power for the Challenger to get off the ground with 30 HP required for level flight.
Name of Picture File:
RPM Required: 3000
Volts: 72 volts
Maximum Current: 70 Amps
Duty Cycle: 1 Hour
Quantity Per Year: 10 or less
Comments: The weight and efficiency of potassium ion lithium batteries are approaching the point where it is possible to fly two hours. 50HP on takeoff is enough power for the Challenger to get off the ground with 30 HP required for level flight.
Name of Picture File:
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